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  January 2013 Watchtower - HAVE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES GIVEN INCORRECT DATES FOR THE END?

  by TheStumbler in

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  2. bible

  i was just on the new jw.org site and i have to say, they've done a good job.

  it looks pretty sleek and is easy to navigate.

  the production values of their magazines (in particular the photos) seems to have improved since i last spent much time on the site.

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  they only admit mistakes that are far enough in the past to have bugger all living rank and file who might remember it...

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  Will this open the way for CRIMINAL convictions of Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body and C.O.s?

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  msnbc.

  "new charges were also added against athletic director tim curley and vice president gary schultz in what pennsylvania attorney general linda kelly calls a conspiracy of silence.. .

  file photo of spanier and sandusky in state college.

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  It would be interesting if the GB went to jail...i wonder what part of revelation they would apply directly to themselves over that one.

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  Are the Adventists looking to attract downtrodden JW's?

  by donny in

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  2. bible

  sorry if anyone has already posted on this but i did not see anything related in the few pages of active topics i checked.. last saturday i went to an oil change facilty and one of their perks is they give you a copy of the current usa today while you wait in your car.

  on page 8a is a full page ad titled "liberty of conscience threatened.... a national sunday law will be established as the mark of the beast.".

  the article then goes on a typical adventist rant about how saturday, not sunday, is the real sabbath established by god.

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  nah

  just choosing a translation that suits their argument like the WT does...

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  If and when Holt gets a trial...

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  presuming he does get a trial.... would the fbi or police, prosecution or defense teams look into whether the elders may have known about his child porn?

  would they look at why he stepped down as an m/s?.

  i am imagining that if they do, and they do find that the elders had knowledge of his predilictions could this be yet another bad turn of events for the wt?.

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  Presuming he does get a trial...

  Would the FBI or police, prosecution or defense teams look into whether the elders may have known about his child porn? Would they look at why he stepped down as an M/S?

  I am imagining that if they do, and they do find that the Elders had knowledge of his predilictions could this be yet another bad turn of events for the WT?

  So far the local community has seemed to be giving the JWs there a rather lot of 'love', what also if they learn as a result of trial publicity, the truth that Holt was not just a random guy who ''had been to the kingdom hall'' but was in fact until recently very active as a JW and was well known to the victim?

  Could be another bad turn for the WT...

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  JW spin on the lady that got murderd my Holt

  by greenhornet in

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  2. friends

  jamie smithmatthew patonken olsenlaurakenivycourtkkrb777lauramatthewepatonmatthewepaton invited more 2 of 2,300 detailed account by whitney heichel's elderinboxx.

  11:42 pm (9 hours ago) to undisclosed recipientsdetailed account by whitney heichel's elder.

  by candice corinne bertram on monday, october 29, 2012 at 12:42pm .

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  bets on the bank official who waved the rules was a JW too....?

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  Whitney Heichel - first hand account from congregation member on Facebook

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why, he even has gone to some meetings at their kingdom hall!

  someone calls with a large wedding tent that they would like to donate and set up in the kingdom hall parking lot for the public memorial on friday.

  i was amazed how people who came that didnt even know whitney, but simply felt a need to be here and comfort the family.

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  would not be surprised (no proof of course) if Brooklyn sent word down the line to pull out all stops on this one. (spin that is, as they did zip otherwise)

  They sure need a PR boost after the conti verdict.

  Regarding that misleading ''he even went to the kingdom hall'' comment, I am sure i read elsewhere that holt and wife had a key to Whitney and Clints apartment to water plants while they were away... so much for the occassional K/H visitor, They must have known and trusted him or they would never do that. Nothing but a spin job on facebook worthy of a yearbook experience!

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  How do I disprove "New Light"?

  by DarkFireWolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i currently am a jw and my parents are too.they seem either confused or dislike it when i raise questions and recently, when i questioned them about 1925 and 1975, i've been told it's changed due to "new light.

  " i don't remember nor do i have very much knowledge of "new light.".

  this "new light" just dosen't sit with me and neither do the false prophecies.new light first of all, breaks a scripture in deut.

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  No need to...

  give the Watchtower enough time and they will do it for you, the 'new light' will be replaced and become 'old light' and therefore false.

  But seriously, go to the foundation of the concept in proverbs and have it read in its entire context and its plain to a blind man that the concept is a scam.

  note: NOT plain to a JW though...

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  First murder of the Watchtower as Corporation??

  by Jaime l de Aragon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  murder investigation alleged to involve watchtower according to world famous detectivenote: all persons or entities such as a corporation are to be considered innocent until or unless proved otherwise by a court of law.the detective who has acknowledged watchtower is obviously involved is scott bernstein who has been on america's most wanted tv series etc.

  there's more about what he said on a taped phone conference farther below which also see.. .

  from what has been said and repeated by many others, including david lynn carter of roanoke/wirth, virginia, when he was alive, david had been under u.s. federal protection after having been poisoned by two jehovah's witness elders and a relative although he also contended with having been born with a genetic condition.

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  okey dokey...

  so the David Carter fellow had knowledge that the Watchtower was in receivership with the US Gov administering its affairs. This had to be secret in case it lead to mass suicide ala heavens gate. And he was murdered to keep it secret?

  And the sleuth is a TV show detective...?

  wonderful if true but the christian witness website layout screams sensationalism and poor credibility. Its all over the place like a mad womans breakfast.

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  Did I do a fade without knowing it?

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  seeing that there a few new fade threads, and farkels hard to top one, got me to wondering if i actually faded without realizing it till 14 years later.... rewind to 1998 when i just plum ran out of steam.

  too many years battling my personal demons resulted in a rapid cease function and in the course of a couple of months i went from m/s and the guy most likely to succeed to leaving wife and congregation.

  i passed in asignments, stopped preaching and meetings cold turkey, handed back public talks etc.

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  Seeing that there a few new fade threads, and farkels hard to top one, got me to wondering if i actually faded without realizing it till 14 years later...

  rewind to 1998 when i just plum ran out of steam. Too many years battling my personal demons resulted in a rapid cease function and in the course of a couple of months i went from M/S and the guy most likely to succeed to leaving wife and congregation. I passed in asignments, stopped preaching and meetings cold turkey, handed back public talks etc. For the next two years until i was DF i sat alone in my rented apartment in another part of town, rarely getting any JW visitors at all. The old cong had no new one to send my card to, hell the new local one didnt even know i was there. When I was DF by then a quarter of the old cong probably had never heard of me.

  Don't know if i faded or melted!

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  Will Quantum Computers Simulate Other Universes? Is Our World a Simulation in Some type of Quantum Computer?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyh2d4-tzfm&feature=g-vrec.

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  the first one...1999

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  go rent it!